Emulating Others … and Trying, Just Trying

In the U.S. we have a hard time emulating other countries and I think that trickles down to our organizations emulating other organizations.

I just noticed that USA Baseball has a comprehensive Athlete Development Plan along with an Online Education website that has training videos for coaches, parents, players, “SafeSport Trained,” and Umpires. The catalog of courses for Coaches has 21 courses in it.

Wouldn’t it be nice …

Having a plan is one thing, implementing it is another. The reason I saw this was USAB had a TV add encouraging parents to enroll their children in USAB youth programs where they would be sure to receive proper instruction.

Wouldn’t it be nice …

I also noticed that:

UK Coaching has confirmed that 2018 will see the inaugural Coaching Week launched. Taking place from 4-10 June, Coaching Week will see a week-long celebration of great coaching take place across the nation.
To mark Coaching Week, UK Coaching is inviting people across the UK to share when and where they have experienced great coaching. To help people know what they are looking for, UK Coaching is currently working with agencies to develop the 10 Principles of Great Coaching, aimed to help define great coaching. These principles will help people recognise and understand great coaching.
Coaching Week will see great coaching celebrated across the nation, with UK Coaching working alongside a range of partners and national governing bodies of sport.

Apparently some people are trying to advance coaching.

Wouldn’t it be nice …

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8 responses to “Emulating Others … and Trying, Just Trying

  1. Coach Tama

    I will be quite frank.
    All of us that live elsewhere around the world, recognise that there is a mentality in America, that concentrates on ‘we have to be the best to beat the rest’. It is as if what motivates you is a focus on not failing, being recognised as the best and holding on to that thing.
    Whilst your sporting system is funded to the envy of every other country, we simply say that the USA has used their vast wealth to achieve sporting success.
    We don’t do this, what we do is look at the effort it takes to gradually be more and more successful and push on, with limited funds.
    This is what it takes to be a true athlete.
    Whilst there are those who have access to the best equipment, there are those of us, becoming their equals with only sticks and stones as equipment.
    To be honest, it is not about using money to put in place, something that is showing off to the rest of the world, that we are the best because we have more money.
    Your athletes are no longer athletes, they are the laboratory rats, let loose.
    With respect, this is my personal observation.

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    • Your personal observations are always welcome here.

      In the world of Olympic Archery, Korea has shown us the way they achieved success. India, Mexico, and a few other countries are emulating them and achieving success, too. Americans, who used to be the best, not be cause we invested our wealth in archery, just that there were many people who had the leisure time to invest in such a quest (a manifestation of wealth, but not a direct investment of wealth). the Koreans showed how, without wealth, but organization and effort, a country could get to the top, Others follow. Americans are somewhat deluded into thinking they are the best at everything and hence are reluctant to follow anyone else, and so lose out.

      All of the time, though, we are investing private and public wealth in our sport in an effort to get “our country” to the top. Archers now have the luxury of training full time (some do) whereas the greats of the past also had full-time jobs. A consequence of this is that anyone who cannot acquire the sponsorship of their country or a wealthy benefactor will find it very, very hard to compete. And does that inform us about the human spirit? Or the human condition? Or nationalistic fervor?

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  2. Hi Steve
    I was reading about the UK Coaching Week. It’s looking to be a good week to celebrate UKC. I don’t know if you know about Connected Coaches? It is a little like this but for all sports coaches to relay idea’s to each other.
    There isn’t much in the way of Archery ……YET.
    It is interesting though, some of the discussions can be directed at any sports .. Most are about football .. erm soccer ..
    One of the recent conversations was about inclusive sport so I just had to add that archery is the most inclusive sport there is …
    I think the hardest part is getting our sport publicity and publicity with enthusiasm would be nice too!

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  3. Yes, I am a member on Connected Coaches and have posted a few comments. And you are right that they concentrate on team sports and how to get players to work together which is quite useless for individual sports. Unfortunately we (meaning me) cannot afford a site like theirs. The software they are using comes with a $1500 per month price tag. We found out a lot when trying to create The Archery Coaches Guild, which is now on the back burner as we couldn’t muster the funding or the technical expertise to make it work (there are only two of us).

    The UK originally based its archery coaching structure on the U.S>’s back when we were the international standard of achievement on archery, but we have dropped the ball her and are now playing :”catch up.” The UK have gotten out ahead of us, quite ahead structurally and this is just further evidence of this.

    The ironic thing is that golf is highly successful here in the US. The Professional Golfer’s Association, which sponsors the PGA Tour (aka Golf for Millionaires), started with two foci: golf course superintendents (you can succeed unless you have places to play) and gold coaches (to advance the abilities and hence success and satisfaction) of practitioners. We, in archery, have not emphasized either of these things.

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  4. Tom Dorigatti

    Interesting blog, Steve.
    I’m known for shooting from the hip. Today’s newbie shooters and many of those with less than 10 years’ have gotten this “thing” that any of the old timer coaches are “has beens” and don’t know anything at all about the current state of the archery world and how it works. I have been told this many, many times, and some shooters have said it to me about other top-notch and proven coaches with a lot of coaching experience under their belts. The funny thing is that the newer “coaches” had to have learned their stuff from either many of these “out-dated” coaches, or come up thru the ranks by keeping their eyes and ears open. The other funny thing, is that they are saying the same thing, and using many of the same methodology in THEIR coaching, but with different wording. It is great that they use different verbage, but the newbie shooters don’t seem to recognize it as that, and think this stuff is NEW and “Marvelous”.
    Many other “students” think that they can absorb this from many people and try this or that without any plan or rhyme to reason and then pick and choose whatever seems to work for them for the moment. The next time you see them, they are doing something completely different and haven’t a clue what is going on because they won’t stick with the same thing for more than one or two sessions, if that.
    Many shops are now going to “shop exclusive coaches” and they are the ONLY coaches that can coach on the premises. They are totally excluding any coaching on the line or in the range unless said “coach” is a shop approved coach!!!
    It is coming to pass that due to our American way of doing it OUR way, or individual preference, the other countries that are working into BEST pracitices that have proven effective for years and years are handing our clocks to the American archers more and more and more all the time. Yes, there are some Americans that rise to the top, but not as consistently as it has been in the past.
    You can watch any one of many great American shooters and then get on-line and read about all the things that are being done “wrong”….but if that person has just won Vegas or the NFAA Nationals, then within days, many shooters are emulating that person, because if it works for him/her, then it MUST work for me! That goes right down to bow brand, sites, stabilizers, arrows, releases, and yes, even quivers and shooting attire.
    I often tell those that think coaches such as myself and other well known and world renowed coaches are out of touch with today’s archery that on thing about education is “ALL teachers/coaches must learn how to teach before they and teach how to learn.” It is not the case that a great competitive shooter than wins a lot of events can COACH! They also will tend to coach what has worked for THEM and not what may work better for the person they are trying to teach. Some have egos and tend to self-promote rather than work to promote the advancement of their “student.” Students tend to listen to anyone that will pay attention and totally change things on the fly without telling their hired coach anything about it. Good way to end a coaching relationship in a heart-beat.
    Off my soap box, but in this country MORE EFFECTIVE coaching courses and stricter requirements to get the coaching credentials are sorely needed.
    Some of the courses I have taken for coaching are set up so that you parakeet back what the good book says and you really don’t learn much of anything but the test so you can pass the certification written test to get your “sheepskin”. Many of those courses were a waste of good time and money.

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  5. morehice

    I agree. The new USAA L1, L2, and L3 textbooks are a great improvement over the old ones, if you haven’t seen them yet. And they offer training videos now which are also good.

    Guy Kruger is doing his best at improving our coach training support. The L4 course I took in December was very helpful. I scored a 95% on the written exam although I failed the oral exam (we had been told not to use “jargon” so I was explaining things in my own words and Lee couldn’t follow my English. I found out afterwards that everyone who passed used his jargon! But I was content, I realized that my grandkids and my volunteer work with kids was more of a priority to me than traveling around the world with elite athletes. Plus, I got the benefit of a week of intensive training! I’ve been getting arthritic in my old age and the NTS really helps. Having the skeletal support of the “barrel of the gun” has allowed me to keep shooting my longbow. )

    I’ve been getting their instructional emails and there is some good stuff. I’ll forward you the latest one.

    Happy Easter!

    Carolyn

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    • On this side of the water we have pretty much the same with maybe one exception. UK Sport have tried to have a standard coaching element that every sport coach does. It is adapted in a few ways in that archery you learn about the shoulder and muscle group. In football you learn about legs and knees. The coaching theory, how to coach, what to coach and all the plan do review is pretty much the same and is supposed to be transferable between sports.
      I think you really learn after your qualification by coaching people, actively coaching. I had a comment that ” I never once opened the book and still passed, never learned anything from a book… ” (Sorry Steve). I don’t think that can be true and shows a bad attitude to learning and teaching. Experience after the qualification counts for a lot and shouldn’t be discounted but learning from a book or mentor is fine, putting in to practice takes ….practice…One thing that has been almost drummed in to me is that you should reflect review adapt and plan each session, take feedback and act on it.
      I have walked away from archers and I will not coach those archers again. After spending two and half hours observing an archer and suggesting a few things that they could do, showing them how to adapt their form only for them to say that they aren’t going to do any of it.

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      • I have seen that attitude before and I understand it. I have often commented that many people already in the archery community aren’t strong readers. They prefer audio and video programs to materials they have to read. It also says something about the difficulty of the tests and it also says something about our training classes. In the regular classes, the books are provided at the training. when one is supposed to read them, I do not know. In the trainings Claudia and I have created, the books are available online as flip books and people can read them before they take the course. They receive a hard copy of the training manual at the training for future reference (the online version is pass code protected and their pass code expires after the training)..

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